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Brendan

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2011-02-08 5-32-15-

Would you say than men are most masochistic than I have come to think they are. Maybe not physiy but emotionally. I have seen men and women alike take a lot of physical pain. I have never mind you seen women subjected to the extreme emotional humiliation than I have seen with men. I’ve not heard of a woman craving being told she is fat, ugly, disgusting (I am sure some exist out there) and or attacked for personal attributes she has no control over, yet I see/hear men crave this treatment no infrequently. Do you think these difference are societal only or could there be a genetic component?
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2011-02-10 3-10-39-

ooops, subject got cut off... "Would you say than men are most masochistic than women?" is what I meant to post.
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  • yamashiro

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    2011-02-11 20-02-40

    shit... that is kinda deep NN... I'm leaning towards societal more than genetic...I mean what part of genetics would create this?
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    Semmler

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    2011-02-12 13-12-29

    I'm not sure maybe the same part that makes males want to be protectors and providers, bread winners... maybe those instincts get muatted sometimes and backfire and make them crave being belittled... sort the way post partum bliss can go wrong in women and it becomes post partum depression...
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    2011-02-16 3-54-19-

    You mean... the pussification of the American male?
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    2011-03-03 8-55-03-

    Seriously? If you are the epitome of "masculine american male" ... I'll take a pussy any day.
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    Honey, bitch, whatever...did I say that?
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    2011-06-30 4-48-49-

    It's implied in your condescending judgment.
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    2011-08-07 17-58-31

    What I'm actually referring to here is that it seems over time, males are being pressured to act and behave in ways that are not natural to them....we tend to be agressieve, the whole hunter thing...society is trying to force us not to be that way.... Sorry you took the wrong way, not sorry for saying it...
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    2011-08-21 15-49-58

    It's ed evolution. Adapt to the world as it currently is, or get left behind.
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    2011-09-11 14-51-14

    Evoloution or Social Engineering ?
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    2011-11-11 7-08-50-

    Who tend to be the social engineers? Men, so if it is social engineering, you're doing it to yourselves.
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    2011-11-11 16-14-42

    Absolutely Forry years ago you were right but that is no longer the case . Just as you can track the breakdown of the American family as it corelates to the evoloution you spoke of you can also apply that same baromoter to the subtle changes in expectations and pressures placed on Males to be something other then there natural disposition . Now before this turns into i am a cave man i certainly am happy to see many of the advancements in equality that have occured over the last century but with every cause ther is a effect and we are feeling those effects as a society big time right now and they are not all positive .
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    Change is never wholly positive or neg
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    2011-12-26 4-44-43-

    Agreed completly once the game changes the dynamics do s well. And i will be honest i do not feel this a gender issue as much as i do a philisophical . That is why i metioned social engineering this is not the fo for it but there has been a systematic effort to dismantle and discredit every basic tradition and principle that built this country and it goes on to this day and as that agenda has been advanced and embraced the fabric of this Country has slowly unwound . Again i won't go further because this is the wrong fo but i feel they are related to nn's post . And agin this is my opinion obviously .
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    I don't completely disagree However, I think that some of those traditions and principles needed to be dismantle and/or updated. As a country, as a society, we are a work in process. The "good old days" weren't all that great for everyone, lol. But yeah, prolly not the place for it.
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    2012-04-10 2-30-04-

    Name a society in history , Whether it be the Romans , The Egyptians, etc. that didn't "Advance it's way to extinction" . Okay i am off my soap box . I just love intelligent non insulting debate.
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    Empire decline is inevitable. And there are plenty of societies in history that didn't advance their way out, but were somehow wiped out by another society.
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    2012-08-06 15-09-41

    Which took advantage of the weaknesses created by the failure to adhere to the principles that created those powerful Empires in the first place . We have reached the point where it is somhow offensive to people to have the most powerful document in the history of civilization read on the floor of the peoples House which was created in the first place due to to the power of that very document . Something went wrong somewhere .
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    2012-08-24 21-11-14

    But i apologise i get to passionate about this stuff and i have strayed away from the topic at hand .
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    2012-11-05 1-39-26-

    So, do you see us in our decline as a society, or in the process of a readjustment?
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    2012-12-26 1-07-10-

    That question will be answered by our ren and grandren . My opinion there is no doubt the decline of our society is well under way . Can it be saved sure. Will it be ... I doubt it .
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    I agree ... it's a hindsight question, not a future prediction kind of question.
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    I look at more of a comparison of the cycle of civilization. We have been a nation that has set the standard for many worldy endeavors, and we are alsoof the youngest to achieve at such a level. The ideals of the nations foundation have been based on good principals, but it also gets lost in the transaltion to implementation.
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    2013-03-25 19-55-41

    It is based on Greek and Roman principles. And we see how well that worked out, lol. America is not an original, lol.
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    Now that disagree with . America certainly built its Governance using the model of societies that came before but the idea oof States Rights , Limited Government , Individual freedom and motivation were certainly not part of the Roman or Greek models actually the revoloution was formed to defeat that exact replica in the form of the British Empire.
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    2013-06-01 19-42-40

    I was talking about the system of government Fundamentally. The Republic. Representative Democracy. Has been done and failed. IMO, primarily because it is predicated on the fact that the average man is too stupid to govern himself. Which is largely true, unfortunately. But that is what sets up the division in society. And ultimately, that is what will destroy us. Too weak to govern ourselves. Too arrogant to allow ourselves to be governed. That is all of humanity though. Not just our little corner of chaos.
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    Very little is ever original, it's always based on examples that are present around the situaation. Even the Magna Carta, although it was original in design of rights it was still based on examples (good and bad) that were around them at the time. We, as United Statians (hehehehe), have experienced very original thinking based on what was seen around them at the time.
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